HOW TO play helicopters as AI traffic

[CFAMT]

I see the date of the last post is Sep 07 but I have the same problem as CrisPotts. I must be doing something right because I can get the recorded helo to play but when I go to Play as Traffic I don't see any Helo in the area it was recorded and after the time of recording I can see FSX cycle as if the recording has stopped.

Is there a proven helo to try this with. I used Jordan Moores 412 but he has created so many variations of it, it took me forever to modify the files.

[Stranger]

Hi CFAMT,

The problem is not in particular model you use for playback as traffic, but in dynamic and configuration files (.air & aircraft.cfg). Have you followed Stoopy's guide to create AI version of your helicopter? Have you changed the aicraft title in aircraft.cfg and recorder .frc file accordingly? Please write down what you have done step by step, so the mistake can be tracked.

Stranger

[CFAMT]

I made all the changes to the Air and Config files, swapping the Air file from a fixed wing and renamed to - Hovercontrol_412_PersonalEditionAI.air. Changed all the file names to end with AI used the rename it tool to change the file name and the helo to end with AI.

Still works with play so I can see it was recorded but not with play as traffic. Must be one little thing I'm missing?

Even put the AI helo into the airplanes folder of FS vice the Rotorcraft. Im trying to post the config file but I'm getting some resistance so I'll try cut and past the first set below (he has 26 models).



[fltsim.0]
title=HC412PE_Slick_N453ACAI
sim=Hovercontrol_412_PersonalEditionAI
model=slick
panel=
sound=
texture=N453AC
kb_checklists=Hovercontrol_412_PersonalEdition_check
kb_reference=Hovercontrol_412_PersonalEdition_ref
prop_anim_ratio=-0.43174
atc_id_color=0xc6eff7ff
atc_id=N453AC
visual_damage=1
ui_manufacturer="Bell/TextronAI"
ui_type="HC412PE SlickAI"
ui_variation="Standard Blue White/GrayAI"
ui_typerole="RotorcraftAI"
ui_createdby="Hovercontrol HelicoptersAI"
description=Hovercontrol 412 Personal Edition v1.0 \n by Jordan Moore. \n\n HOVERCONTROL.COM

[Stranger]

Have you changed the engine_type value to 0 in [GeneralEngineData] section of aircraft.cfg? BTW you made a separate copy of Hovercontrol_412_PersonalEdition for use as AI, don't you?

Stranger

P.S. Play and Replay functions work even with unmodified helos, so that's not an indication at all. Problem resides in simulator AI traffic engine. It just not designed for helicopter traffic. We have to fool it and pretend that our helicopter is a piston prop or jet fixed wing aircraft.

[CFAMT]

Hi Stranger, thanks for the feedback.

No I didn't change any engine data, so I'll give that a go and yes I did create a separate copy of the AI aircraft and put it into the airplanes folder of simobjects not helicopters.

It would be nice if the recorder worked with helos without all these additional steps. I really like the program.

CFAMT

[Stranger]

This is a simulator issue. It's AI traffic engine just isn't designed for helicopter traffic.

[CHAIRWOLF]

Howdy Gents,

First off, I really appreciate this fantastic utility. The hard work to make this tool has helped me make some decent helicopter videos . . . one example is linked at the bottom of this message.

I have FSX Acceleration and am aware of the issue of the limitation of Play As AI when using helicopters. I followed the work-around instructions with multiple FSX Helicopters (base models and addons) and cannot get them to appear at all. But when I select a fixed wing aircraft to playback as ai, I can watch it appear in front of me like magic and execute the earlier recorded flight path. So I'm sure I'm doing something wrong during the work-around, adding "AI" to the files for the helicopters.

Actually, has anybody been able to Play AI as helicopters in FSX with FSRecorder? Looks like all the success stories with this in FSRecorder are happening while playing FS9. Any lucky FSX play-helo-as-ai chaps out there?

If you are able to successfully play helicopters as ai in FSX, would you mind copy / pasting that successful aircraft config file for the helicopter that worked for you and stating what fixed-wing .air file you substituted also in the folder?

Take Care,

Tom

Here's a YouTube video that was made thanks to the great FSRecorder. Make sure to watch it in "high quality":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkS5-bpJfoM

[bastien]

Hello I did all that you said in your tuto but impossible to do it with a tiger or puma.

I need assistance!!

it is about the tiger of Rory Kelly for Fs2004

thank you

PS: afflicted for my English I am French

[SAR-Medic177]

Hi Folks,

hope this will find some one out there that can help. I have followed the instructions above to the letter with the UKMIL chinook in FSX, however no matter what I try I cannot get it to show up when I replay. Can anyone offer any suggestions or an even more idot proof guide to doing this? Any help very very much welcome.
Kind Regards.

Chris

[CFAMT]

Actually, has anybody been able to Play AI as helicopters in FSX with FSRecorder? Looks like all the success stories with this in FSRecorder are happening while playing FS9. Any lucky FSX play-helo-as-ai chaps out there?

Hi Chairwolf, I agree and have the same situation as you in that I can record and play a single helo but in FSX there seems to have been a change that prohibits the play as traffic. It is too bad that the helos do not record and play the same way as fixed wing Aircraft.

A big thanks to all those who have spent hours trying to fit a square peg in a round hole to do as much as we can with the Helos.

I think this is an awesome product and perhaps when the market turns around maybe M$ might throw some big $$ at fsrecorder and make it part of their product.